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Gay Partnerships To Be Discussed in Parliament

The issue of same-sex registered partnerships has come into focus with the Freedom and Solidarity party (SaS) planning to submit a legislative proposal to allow registered partnerships, something that a recent poll of the agency Focus says is supported by almost half of all Slovaks.

Gay rights parade in Bratislava (c) The Daily.sk

The SaS party wants the issue to be debated already in the parliamentary session starting 11 September, and is hoping to get enough support to give homosexual couples some of the same rights as married couples. The party expects partial support from the OLaNO party of Igor Matovic, but is hopeful that the stand-alone government party of Robert Fico, Smer-SD, will make certain concessions and back the motion, at least in part.

The gay rights group Iniciativa Inakost (Otherness Initiative) presented the results of the poll on 1,026 respondents together with the agency Focus, noting how almost half of those in the poll supported the idea of registered partnerships for gays, while not allowing same-sex partnerships to adopt children. The actual figures were 9% definitely in favour of the move, with another 38% swaying in favour, with a clear link being seen between age and support or opposition.

38 Comments for “Gay Partnerships To Be Discussed in Parliament”

  1. George M

    God, this is so easy ……….Guys, If at first you don’t succeed, skydiving is not for you.

  2. alec hodges

    Speak only for yourself George. The only thing I don’t believe is that they let you out of hospital and allowed you to travel to a foreign country. It’s not the fault of Slovaks or Slovakia that you have such an inferiority complex. Get a grip on yourself man and start to enjoy life before it’s too late and you self destruct.

  3. Dr. P

    The moderator knows who I am. I’m not Losgar or anyone else here, I’ve only written with the one name: Dr. P, but it takes one to know one.

  4. George M

    Sorry Loghead, cannot see that first insult ??

    So perhaps you are the dumbass bigot Dr P, as well as Loghead ?? Hell you were the one whining and wrongly complaining that I was twenty different people to the boss ..

    Seems finally you actually have forgotten who you really are ? You have lied so many times on this forum that even Smug Alec does not believe you .

  5. George M

    Loghead has yet to understand …. A closed mouth gathers no foot.

  6. Dave C.

    LOSGAR – Nice to hear from you again – still in PRC or some other fantasy place?
    Still posting insults rather than comments on the topic – I like a man who knows and understands his limitations.

    • Losgar

      1. DC – I do live in China.

      2. Georgio boy insulted me first when I posted a comment about Pit bull terriers. But of course you know that, right?

      3. I have more information about the SVK cases because I read the SVK news. You don’t and that’s why you are often mistaken. But I don’t have much free time as the last time when you posted that ignorant comment about SVK history, to which I wrote you a 300 words reply, then you were studying it for 3 days and finally you agreed that you were wrong. Remember?

      4. You obviously has lots of free time to search the internet and then to post the information on this web site. Thanks for that! But again that’s just history facts. When you mix the history facts with your guesses you often come up with one big gulash dish which smells good but gives you a stomachache.

      • Dave C.

        Losgar
        1. Still in PRC? I thought you said you were coming home/

        2. George labelled you as a looney and asked how you would legislate against the owners of dangerous dogs, a response you have yet to pen.
        Your original comment regarding making owners for the actions of their dogs was a twee mad – Taking action AFTER the dog has ripped a kids face off is not a solution to the problem – preventing the dog being there in the first place is.

        3. You read the Sk news, I don’t – crystal balls? Tarrot cards perhaps? so you know more than me? The local Noviny will be gutted when I cancel my regular subscription to Slovak, Czech and English newspapers and I will have to stop watching the BBC, Sky, CNN and Fox news.
        My ignorant comment about Sk history – your opinion on my factually correct response.
        Agreed I was wrong after spending three days reading your 300 word response? :-
        A. Don’t flatter yourself by assuming I would take three days studying anything you wrote. I am English, not a Slovak trying to work out which way a door opens.
        B. My response congratulated you on your well presented but still factually incorrect reply because it was such a change from your normal trade of insults and was actually on topic. Where pray do I say I was wrong or do understand a different form of English?
        C. Yes I have a lot of free time but I don’t mix facts with fiction – Mr Pretend Policeman.
        I make excellent gulash!

        • George M

          Don`t worry DC, Loghead reverts to type and drifts well off topic on The Malinova thread and again insults the Brits and for saving 100 abused Slovak children, by their perverted Slovak parents currently pouncing of our taxes and social system n the UK .

  7. George M

    Dr P, one large and very resounding raspberry in your personal direction .

    The more we hear from you ( and I am not the only one that obviously see`s this) the more I feel you have gone native pal …….

    BTW JB, Whatever happened to the NO PERSONAL ATTACKS rule ….perhaps you should move Dr P , to the moderation queue, as clearly like the Slovaks rocks he loves to live under , he now cannot possibly control himself .

    • Losgar

      Georgio, everytime you whine you make me laugh.
      Stop being a baby, take it as a man. You keep insulting everybody around and when somebody sums up your mental problems you brake down like a whore in church.

      • George M

        Loghead, The word is Break not Brake ….your obvious ignorance, never even astounds me .

        I get the feeling you need a check up, from the neck up .

  8. Dr. P

    George, I live in Slovakia, not in Bratislava which is like a different country. I’ve lived for the last five years in the Saris region and before that was a frequent visitior to Middle-Slovakia. I speak the language and work with Slovaks. I’m pretty confident to say that I understand the people of this country and thier views although I don’t always agree with those views.

    Inbreeders and people who have hardly a brain are located in every country (you as an Englishman should know this).
    I’m just suprised that you don’t seem to know any Slovaks that are normal in your view.
    Maybe it’s because it takes one to know one or maybe you’re just bigoted yourself…..It’s quite obvious that you think you’re better then Slovaks which you are definitly not. You’re an obnocious and racist person and most people here wouldn’t mind if you wouldn’t show your dumb opinions here anymore.

  9. George M

    ~~~~Most Slovaks I know are respectable hard working people with an open mind. It seems you attract all the inbreeding up-on-the-hill-living dumbasses, ~~~

    Dr P , you must live a very limited life …try living 20klms from Bratislava for a while, say in a village and you will get the picture that there are far more dumbasses, than what you consider normal people .

    Expat, thank you for informing us of your perverted TV viewing program ….I can see why you have a repressed brain and we all on here laugh at you. Actually, all people could harm me and my family, gays or straight or otherwise, that is why I personally point out and even champion those that bring these matters to the public eye, rather than like a pathetic you, that hide in a corner like a mouse and hope the big, bad wolf just goes away . BTW. How is the wife, still wearing the house pants ?

  10. EXPAT

    WOW, what a discussion… I had to stop about five or so postings above! Anyway, someone made a comment about the parades and the open intamacy shown in publuc…. Have you ever seen “Gorls Gone Wild” or any “Campus Frat Party Video”? These are just as bad and sometimes worse than two guys kissing!

    There have been gay and strauight for long beofre it has been an issue! IT IS NOT A RECENT DISCOVERY!

    Grow up and concern yourself on your own contribution to society, not every one else! Gay or Straight, who really cares? Do the gay people do harm to you and your family?

  11. Dr. P

    Oh George, you were so close not being the kind of guy you’re normally are. Try a bit harder next time, in the end you’ll get there. I’m sure of it…..

    Get it in your daft head: I’m not Slovak and even more important, most Slovaks aren’t like the persons you try to picture here on this forum. Most Slovaks I know are respectable hard working people with an open mind. It seems you attract all the inbreeding up-on-the-hill-living dumbasses, says probably more about you then about these people.

  12. George M

    How novel ! One Slovak bigot discusses how another Slovak bigot is a dumbass, whist his own dumbass bigotry is somehow less and OK ?

    Why a mother and a father …a drunk, violent, brainless, adulterst, absent, Ayran Slovak father is on your planet, is somehow far better than no father …………….well NO!

  13. Dr. P

    Lady Ga Ga, what kind of a dumbass are you?

    Gay people aren’t animanls, what the hell? And use your mouth where god intended it for? Are you one of those people who still believes in fairy tailes like the eastern bunny, Santa Claus and God?

    I don’t agree with gay marriage but partnership is no problem, but again I draw the line at adoption, a child needs a mother and a father for different stages of his life.

  14. Dave C.

    Lady Goo Goo – A typical response from a typical Slovak. Because I defend the rights of the LGBT community your challenged brain equates that I must “bat for the other side”. I can assure you that is not the case, as many of your Sk sisters will testify.
    I have always supported the rights of individuals, especially when confronted by the type of bigotted, misinformed, hateful comments that you make. You will be suprised to learn that I would also defend your right to voice your opinion, no matter how confrontational it may be, but I will also respond with my views on the comments you make.
    In your twisted world, anyone who doesn’t conform to your personal, intollerant vision of what is or is not correct are contenders for your fantasy “peoples court” and draconian punishments, meanwhile, on planet Earth, you vent your frustrations by making incorrect assumptions and attempting to make purile insults.
    Do us all a favour, Slovaks and foreigners alike, and take action to ensure that you do not pass on your damaged genes to the next generation.

  15. Lady Ga Ga

    You talk far too much for a ass . Perhaps you should stick to what God designed iit for …and not buggery /

  16. Dave C.

    Ah! Lady Ga Ga – nice to see you’ve got your Internet concession back at the Big House.
    So the LGBT community are animals are they? No suprises there then when in previous ramblings you have labelled the Roma, foreigners and even your own countrymen who don’t fit your bigotted perception of what is a true Slovak, as sick or criminals. No doubt in your fantasy world the LGBT set would all appear before the “peoples court” before bring shot, gased or hung.
    It’s about time you and a fair proportion of Slovaks as a whole wake up to the fact that you have two choices as a Nation – either grow up, accept that this is the 21st Century and that multi-culturism and social tolerence are the norm and that your less than 1% of the population of Europe is not going to make any difference to the ongoing developments in the EU community OR continue, what appears to be a headlong slide back to the middle-ages, and become an insignificant, rarely visited backwater, a monochrome, open air museum of society at its worst.

  17. Lady Ga Ga

    Do we let apes, chimps and even sheep marry as they are animals .

  18. Matteo

    Praha profited big time from the pink dollar. I am sure Bratislava could as well.
    Open up, be accepting and part of that is gay marriage or common law.
    I think the benefits could be a great part of increasing gay tourism and acceptance in Bratislava and other cities.

  19. George M

    I read today that Moscow’s top court has upheld a ban on gay pride marches in the Russian capital for the next 100 years. Gay rights campaigner, Nikolay Alexeyev, had gone to court hoping to overturn the city council’s ban on gay parades. He had asked for the right to stage such parades for the next 100 years.

    He also opposes St Petersburg’s ban on spreading “homosexual propaganda”. The European Court of Human Rights has told Russia to pay him damages. The Moscow city government argues that the gay parade would risk causing public disorder and that most Muscovites do not support such an event.

    Which just about sums up my point ….The Gay guy wants the right to have a parade for a daft 100 years ….and that `most` Muscovites do not support such an event. Still a long way to go in this world and on both sides .

  20. NY

    George, I think your approach was really accurate when you redefined this topic with the right question: Why gay marriage should not be disallowed? There are no real reasons.

    With regards the big demonstrations and parades, I personally think that they respond to reaction from a minority that has been discriminated and bullied, overexposing what they usually have to hide. We could compare it with the 60s sexual revolution. In any case, once homosexuality is fully accepted by society, the demonstrations will have no reason to take place.

  21. George M

    ~~~as long as they are upstanding citizens, who cares what goes on in private~~~

    I think that is where the LBGT cause fall down ….they actually don`t want to be private, they want to be seen and shock…we have `Protest` Gay Parades…. a herd of half naked people just there to shock, or to shock by two same sex people being viewed by all in the street, with their tongue down each others throats. ……do groups of heterosexuals have the same shock need, to display there sexuality in such a way?

    I have no real problem with people doing what they wish in private, I just dont think most people want the Gay lifestyle and any acceptance of it, just forced fed on them in this way, which is the case with with many of the LGBT community. As with many of these group, if you want the same rights as others, perhaps you need to act in the same manner …with a normal street protest ?

    • Dave C.

      Very true George but put a camera on any group of people and the exhibitionists will come out of the woodwork.
      The LGBT community should try to control the shock and awe demonstrations of some of their group, what you do in private is your business, but excessive behaviour in public will damage your cause rather than further it. If you want to be accepted as normal – act within the accepted standards.

  22. Dave C.

    Dr. P – I agree that the term marriage should not be used to describe a pledge of commitment between two persons of the same sex but only because the term conjures up the wrong image in the minds of the blinkered and bigotted. If two people enter into a “contract” with each other they should all have the same rights and this is what I don’t understand. When Slovakia joined the EU it ratified the EU Convention of Human Rights which enshrines the rights of the LGBT community. No need for a parliamentary debate – the laws should just be amended to make them inclusive. The church and other groups have every right to object but no right to subvert basic human rights, something that has yet to sink in in this country.
    On the issue of same sex couples adopting children – whats the problem? as long as the authorities ensure the child is in no danger, is going to be loved and cared for LG couples should be treated the same as hetro couples. Personally I would be baffled by any objections to adoption by LG couples from a society that allows children to live in the squalid conditions of many Roma communities.

  23. Matteo

    As a gay permanent resident of Slovakia. I would say in this day and age, thoughts against same sex marriage or partnership should be the norm.
    Gays and those in the LGBT community pay taxes just the same as everyone else and are as long as they are upstanding citizens, who cares what goes on in private. None of us have the right to judge “love” between two people.
    Be open, accepting and above all, fair. Freedom for each citizen, each tax payer, each person who gives back to society. Let’s move forward because there is nothing the other way. BTW, I come from a country where gay marriage was passed years ago.

    • Matteo

      Correction:

      As a gay permanent resident of Slovakia. I would say in this day and age, thoughts FOR same sex marriage or partnership should be the norm.

  24. George M

    Not sure if after some thought, I agree with either of you, as you both still seem blinded by a religious or personal bigotry. If you break down the very reason to marry, you may have your answer.

    The ceremony ( which is all it is really ) is the act of declaring publicly a commitment to another person. From there your commitment to that person is to see that they come first in your life. Not all that long ago blacks and whites were not allowed to marry. The objections raised today over gay marriage are in line with the objections raised then. Some claim that as the majority don’t support gay marriage it should not be permitted. The majority also did not support women’s rights such as the right to vote, and equal pay etc. Blacks also did not receive majority support when seeking their freedoms.

    Child slavery was very popular until the minority stood up and said the majority has it wrong. The majority have not supported much when it comes to a community of civil changes. That’s because the majority would rather laze in their comfort zones, than consider an alternative or do anything that wont actually benefit them directly.

    Finally , how `marriage` won’t affect other people is not a reason to get married or why it’s even alright to get married. it’s more of an argument why it should NOT be disallowed, in my opinion.

    Why do you need more reasons than because they love each other? There’s the tax advantage, the medial plans when one works and the other doesn’t, insurance, wills, estate taxes, etc. but all of these are benefits of being married (or disadvantages, depending on how you look at it) and doesn’t have anything to do with ‘gay’ as such, but with the mixture of religious and social or economic attributes of the current let`s get marriage fad.

    So the real question is ‘why should gay people NOT be allowed to get married? And not because a so called Majority of mindless, bigoted, religious or we don`t really care or I dont benefit voters, just say no .

  25. NY

    This conversations remind me highschools debates. FFS if 2 people want to subscribe themselves legally for some rights and obligations, that is their choice. Ultimately it is as a legal contract that is chosen under free will. Let us all move on to more important issues.

    • George M

      Like the great debate of how to spend 2 euro, jumping up and down in the park you mean ? :-)

    • David

      Not quite, i’m afraid. Gay partnerships are not needed per se, and I am sure some intricate personal contracts could be drawn up on a case-by-case basis. sounds cumbersome. And this measure would go some way – tokenism maybe – to further tolerance of gay people. This would be in line with the 1990s Catholic document / teaching…. rejecting the orientation but decrying victimization etc .

  26. Dr. P

    I agree with David. I’m not religious but I don’t think 2 gay people should be able to get married, that’s for a man and a woman in my opinion.

    Furthermore I don’t think it should be possible for 2 men (or 2 women) to adopt a child as is legal in my home country of Holland where same-sex-marriages are very normal and common.

    So partnership (with it’s legal/fiscal/financial benefits); fine, but let’s draw the line there.

  27. David

    Whatever one’s views of homosexuality (and I follow Catholic theology – not slavishly or sheepishly – it is my degree subject) I think the issue of gay partnerships is fine for inheritance, tax, hospital visit and other reasons).

    Gay ‘marriage’ is a non-sequitur for me and David Cameron’s pushing for it is trite and unconvincing. Some gay politicians think it unnecessary (Labour’s ben Bradshaw)..
    The Slovak Catholic church may kick up a kerfuffle but the UK Catholic church officially has no problem with it as a concrete measure. I hope we hear very little from Mr millions Archbishop Sokol and the Figel (discounted flat) Pharisees.

  28. George M

    How did we move to MOST Slovaks, when only 9% were in favour ?? The `we don`t know or don`t care` suddenly became a yes vote ?

    The daft way we run our world , on some unknown Christian or God complex values (whatever that is ? ) then for legal reasons I guess same-sex registered partnerships are needed . Apart from that , I see no reason to go further and the adoption of children is always a difficult one, as parenting is about many things and that you never know who is the potential pervert, whether they be gay, or even `straight` like a priest .

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