At an emotional gathering in front of the British Embassy in Bratislava yesterday afternoon, about 300-400 people expressed their sympathy and support for the case of Mrs B, whose children were taken from her by Social services in the UK two years ago.
The protesters, many of them mothers with young children and worried grandparents with grandchildren in the UK, gathered silently at first in front of the empty Embassy building. A few police were on hand along with the embassy security service, but this was to be no violent demonstration, rather one of tears. Armed only with banners and a passion to draw attention to the problem, the protesters wept and clapped as people gave speeches through a megaphone.
Almost at the same time, the Court of Appeal in the UK was deciding to extend the appeal deadline in the B family’s case, which it did, giving them a ray of hope that they will be reunited. The court in London issued an unprecedented ruling, essentially freezing the earlier judgement to put the two sons of the B family up for adoption. This will now allow the grandmother to put the case forward for the children to be given to her care. This is apparently the first time the court has intervened in such a private case in this way.
Lord Justice McFarlane ruled that the grandmother could appeal the family court judge’s ruling, saying there was an arguable case that the family court judge my have “fallen into error”.
Shortly after the protest, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs called a press conference at which it explained how it was essentially powerless to intervene with the British judicial or social system, but that it had given and will continue to give its full support to the family and keep communicating on the diplomatic level with its UK counterparts.
According to estimates of the Centre for International Legal Protection of Children and Youth, some 38 Slovak families may have had their children taken away from them by the Social services. The Centre is the body that families should turn to if they need legal assistance.
After two years the case reached the making of a Placement Order – the order freeing the children for Forced Adoption.
The mother will have said she cannot care for them as a legal manoeuvre.
In an Anglo- Saxon legal system the evidence cannot be reheard, only legal errors and new evidence is allowed for an appeal.
Also there are no funds for appeals in the Family Court.
This is why at this point a voluntary organisation came forward to take the appeal on behalf of the grandmother.
This was the legal error as they are supposed to consider grandparents and relatives as Kincarers.
However, such is the arrogance of those in the Family Court system and theorall-consuming desire not to lose Face, usually the only way to get children out of the system is to have a realtive apply to be given care, and whn they have it take the Abroad.
However what concerns me there is no sense of regret, no apolgy being offered and no recognition the original report may have been on an infection.
Another classic example of a Slovak news item last night. Another Sob, Sob story of a mother who lost her children to those awful UK courts. It did manage to briefly mention that she was a drug user but didn’t expound on that tiny detail. No mention that when pregnant she was advised not to continue with her substance abuse, advice that she ignored, no mention that the child was subsequently born with drug related health problems, no mention that the mother was still using drugs after the birth.
Sorry, I don’t know or really care about the “rules” in the Sk but in the UK if you reclessly endanger the health of your unborn child then you can expect to lose both it and any siblings.
The images of her boarding a bus back to the UK in an attempt to get her kids back may whell strike a chord with some observeres here but I think she has a snowball in hell’s chance of success.
Yuuuuuuup, no one could make it up . Well unless you are TV JOJ and they are such honest Indians .
Due to the huge interest and number of comments on this subject, for ease of reading we have set up the subsection UK Forced Adoptions, which includes all articles and comments relating to this subject.
https://www.thedaily.sk/category/current-affairs/forced-adoptions-in-uk/
The Trolls in this case and column are well and truly back.
We need Great Big Billy Goat Gruff.
The parents will have dropped out because sending the children to a relatives is usually the only way to get them out of the clutches of the SS and Family Court.
Also in an Anglo-Saxon jurisdiction all appeals can only be on legal errors, so the appeal can only be on the legal error of failing to take into account relatives.
Using the wrong photographs is a standard feature of SS evidence.
Also when charges are dropped continuing.
“This is the UK Court, where most things are visible to the public”.
The Family Court is an Extraordinary Tribunal and set up as such where total secrecy prevails.
You CAN talk to people – they are lying – the only thing legally which needs to be conceled is the names and addess of the family.
Forced Adoption is the British system.
Fortunes are made by the legals, Guardians and expert witnesses wh just want to go along with it – there is a Conflict of Interest.
The British Family Court and practise of Forced Adoption is a major Human Rights scandal that has been going on for years
Fairly naturally the British wish to cover up as the it makes all that lecturing of foreign governments look very bad.
http://udalosti.noviny.sk/pochybne-adopcie-deti/02-10-2012/benjaminko-je-vraj-vazne-zraneny-no-skoncil-v-irskej-rodine.html
Another case, similar to UK reality. Now it happened in Ireland.
Questions:
How the hell is possible that the children was given for fostering with 21 fractures? Should not the baby stay in hospital ???
Why doctors in Cork {Ireland} found first 10 fractures and next day 21 ruptures?
Why slovak ambasador was not allowed to join a court last week?
Why would parents medial and this case if they know that they are guilty?
How its possible that there is no outside evidence of bone fracture?
and many many similar questions…!!!
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/289232/Social-workers-sex-up-abuse-claims-to-snatch-children-for-adoption-
Sorry this is correct thread
Mia, your enclosed article is an almost year old…
But, this happening now. What is this all about?!
Great news!!
The 5 Roma children who were taken from their parents were returned by the UK SS.
I have to correct myself: The UK SS has taken 100 kids from SVK familes in the last 3 years /before I said it was 300/.
http://humenne.korzar.sme.sk/c/6541327/britsky-sud-vratil-deti-conkovcov-na-slovensko.html
The parents never want to return to the UK again. No surprise there.
Yea Loghead, living without the Child Benefits and the other welfare support payments, must have got real tough for them due to the lack of kids to bump up the pay cheque .
Two places never to raise kids if you have any brains- which apparently I do not:
1) UK
2) Slovakia
Britain has a long history of similar mischieves with orphans. One would think Britain would already learn something from it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Children
Of course you personally knew and met Annie MacPherson ?
Her child migration scheme movement was only started in 1869?
Idiot .
George, can you imagine how many horror stories behind the 100.000 “orphans” /many of them were lied they were orphans/?
Since 1869 until the 1970’s.
The UK finally apologized for that in 2010:
“On Wednesday, 23 February 2010, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Gordon Brown issued an official apology for the “shameful” child resettlement programme and announced a £6 million fund designed to compensate the families affected by the “misguided” programme.”
I’m sure there were lots of Georges and Dave Cs who would till their last breath never admit that it was wrong.
I believe kids should be together with parents. Friend of mine has similar experience with the docs in UK. Her boy had bad constipation, medicine did not work, so her parents send her form SLovakia swab tube, which is used here for such a babies problems, can be bought in every pharmacy. It helped her boy too. BUT when she explaint to the doctor what she did, she got social service control. Based on the doc papers they believed she absused her child. It took her some time to explain. I believe that UK had a good bussines in addoption of healty white slav kids, because, in some time the wont be any whites in UK, lots of chines, pakistany and indiens, blacks, of course…white healty kids are just the right thing…dont you thing?
The racism just oozes out from Slovaks cracks .
ie we Brits steal kids because they are white ????? Your Nuts !
Let me just say, if this family in trouble were Roma, ( ie not Aryan) for sure, no one in Slowvakia would even have bat and eye lid to protest .
hey you mr George -looser,first learn how to spell SLOVAKIA!!! people like you make me sick!!!!
S-L-O-W-V-A-K-I-A ……..how is that ?
George- Get out of here u think that u know everythink but u dont know nothing just get out of here
Well said DC …again.
Sadly some of my similar comments of daft `total TV belief ` are not being just Moderated but Censored, as they are considered to harsh for woman to hear and do not fit the general sob , sob story, the Editor wants on here . Clearly he made his mind up far too soon, but now reading all may not be quite as he first thought, he is now professionally embarrassed in front of his loving, Slowvak motherhood fans .
‘just Moderated but Censored, as they are considered to harsh for woman to hear and do not fit the general sob , sob story, the Editor wants on here.’
Or because they were simply abusive?
Where on earth do some of you comment writers get your information from? It’s quite obvious that the “homies” believe every word presented by JOJ and the Slovak press, whilst those in the UK appear to have access to confidential court records – No! I don’t think so! Reading articles on the internet posted by vested interests should be done with some balance, don’t confuse opinions and allegations with facts.
Silvia and Kate – You know nothing about UK law if, as you claim the Social Services purjured themselves or presented false evidence in court, then it is your duty to inform the court and give testamony and you should pass your “evidence” to the grandmother to help her with her appeal. Withholding evidence from UK courts is a criminal offence – in other words put up or shut up. If your allegations prove to be true, then I and most of the British population will demand those guilty face the harshest punishment. You and the rest of Slovakia can then see how we deal with incompetent and corrupt public servants.
The Appeal Court ( Famiies Division) of the Royal Courts of Justice ( Not the Royal Court – dimwits at JOJ note) have granted the GRANDMOTHER the right of appeal against the decision not to hand the children over to her on the grounds of a possible failing of the lower court, and I wish her all possible sucess in her actions. Common sense dictates that the boys, so long as they will be safe, should stay with the family. Why the original custody application was refused we have yet to learn. One thing is for certain, despite the “cherry picking” presentation of some of the “facts” in this case by the Slovak media, justice will prevail during the appeal process.
I see the trolls are back.
Jon Hemming’s advisors will have seen the court papers so details will be accurate.
The Family Court and SS regularly ignore the STATUTORY REQUIREMENTs under 2 Acts to go to other family members if at all possible.
SW’s regularly as a standard feature perjure themselves in the Family Court and commit contempt in putting inaccurate information in reports.
They regularly supress evidence unfavorable to themselves.
The Family Court judges just ignore this.
Justice WILL NOT NECESSARILY PREVAIL in the appeal, as the Court of Appeal acts as a “roof” for the corruption and incomptencies of the Family Court.
It is usually virtually impossible to get.
Permission to appeal has only been allowed because of the publicity by the Slovaks and complaints by their embassy.
Looks bad with consular officials in court..
“I and most of the British population will demand those guilty face the harshest punishment. You and the rest of Slovakia can then see how we deal with incompetent and corrupt public servants.”
Ha! Ha!
The British population have ignored the problem for years – partly because of the total secrecy.
They will, nothing will be done except covering up like mad.
If they did colums of SW’s and Family Court judges would be marching ontheir way to the labour camps.
If people don’t like the UK’s rules
don’t live in UK …
It’s not just about the rules, it’s about the fairness, the lies. They are destroying children’s lives so what’s the fairness in that??? They do it to British citizens too.
And to be fair Dave if I could I would leave this stupid country tomorrow but unfortunately I can’t because of this messed up UK law!!!
Be sure they will leave, but UK must give children back firstly. How it can be possible in the year 2012, in Europe to adopt children against parent´s will??? It´s illegal in Slovakia!!!
The Slovak authorities rarely answer letters in due time – if at all.
In this case diplomacy was not possible because there was no dialogue.
This is the primary reason why proceedings have been so protracted. I suppose the demonstration numbers were exaggerated by the number of “boat tourists” curious as to what was going on.
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